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Post by westworld on Feb 5, 2024 19:15:22 GMT
Was a gamble to sign him unfortunately it hasn't worked out and we have to move on,he isnt the only player to have had injuries and no good will come from raking over the fine details
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Post by winone on Feb 5, 2024 19:21:27 GMT
Was a gamble to sign him unfortunately it hasn't worked out and we have to move on,he isnt the only player to have had injuries and no good will come from raking over the fine details like the budget buster needs I say more |
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Post by Ash on Feb 5, 2024 19:40:09 GMT
Its easy to make a judgement without knowing the facts but Danny G obviously thought it was the right move and I would trust him. Yes it would have been great if it had come off on the field but with his wealth of experience he may well turn out to be an excellent Coach. Give him a chance before writing him off. how many minutes did he spend on the pitch playing not a lot I bet 255 League mins 13 FA Trophy so 268 minutes (7 appearences, 3 starts, 4 sub) out of a total of 1800 possible (not counting added time) When he played we averaged 0.33 Points per game vs 1.4 Points per game when he didnt, but he played only 6 league games so it skews the average quite a lot. In addition he faced Rylands, Guiseley, Marine and Radcliffe away so some of the toughest games plus in the Morpeth home game we went down to 9 men. Not really enough to draw any conclusions on as he just didnt get enough minutes to make an impression. Im sure the attitude might be if he had come good he could have made a massive difference, i accept that is true, but that seemed a vanishingly small probability when he signed as his injury record was dire. For me it was too big a risk and if he was going to be brought in as a coach then fine but use the funds raised for someone else. I cant even say, oh its a shame it didnt work out as its gone exactly as i expected it would. More importantly is this going to dampen ethusiasm from the fans for raising another load of money next pre-season as a result? Was a gamble to sign him unfortunately it hasn't worked out and we have to move on,he isnt the only player to have had injuries and no good will come from raking over the fine details If the club is a dismissive as this then it definitely will for future budget boosters, no one learns lessons by avoiding scrutiny of decisions |
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Post by popside on Feb 5, 2024 20:05:58 GMT
A gamble that didn't pay off. Sensible negotiations would have had Dev on a modest wage of say £200 per week + £X per appearance. Hopefully this is what we did and not just a large weekly wage.
I still think the board had to make a decent name signing with the money to show fans it was indeed used on the playing budget. I'd personally contribute again even though this one didn't work out.
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Post by onlyonereds on Feb 5, 2024 21:21:11 GMT
Got to be one of the worst signings very very similar to the Stuart Green carry on...
Where has all the budget booster gone? Have to say the transfer dealings this year have been poor.. but Danny will no doubt b happy wid the squad
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Post by Simon Collins on Feb 5, 2024 21:44:23 GMT
Please can some of you posting comments on here understand that whilst it is disappointing Jamie has had to retire from playing, he's a human being with a family to support and now a career change to get his head in the right place about?
It would be nice to congratulate him on a great career as a player over many years and there's no doubt that experience will bring added value to the dressing room.
Well done Jamie & looking forward to your new career in Coaching for many years to come.
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Post by onlyonereds on Feb 6, 2024 7:31:55 GMT
Please can some of you posting comments on here understand that whilst it is disappointing Jamie has had to retire from playing, he's a human being with a family to support and now a career change to get his head in the right place about? It would be nice to congratulate him on a great career as a player over many years and there's no doubt that experience will bring added value to the dressing room. Well done Jamie & looking forward to your new career in Coaching for many years to come. Simon, no doubting Jamie has had a great career, but was the money he was reported to be on an astute bit of business by the club? Was he on a pay as u play? U must understand how frustrated fans are with how the money they invested has been used. Do u think this might hinder future budget boosters? I really hope Jamie becomes a great coach at reds. Really do. But as a player I stand by what I said he was one of the poorest signings especially in regards to value for money, but this is only my opinion. |
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Post by redray on Feb 6, 2024 8:21:46 GMT
Please can some of you posting comments on here understand that whilst it is disappointing Jamie has had to retire from playing, he's a human being with a family to support and now a career change to get his head in the right place about? It would be nice to congratulate him on a great career as a player over many years and there's no doubt that experience will bring added value to the dressing room. Well done Jamie & looking forward to your new career in Coaching for many years to come. Completely out of touch with supporters who like myself, gave their hard earned money in the hope of a marquee signing who might actually contribute to Reds.He certainly brought no 'added value' on the pitch which is where his experience was supposed to benefit us. |
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Post by winone on Feb 6, 2024 8:46:29 GMT
Please can some of you posting comments on here understand that whilst it is disappointing Jamie has had to retire from playing, he's a human being with a family to support and now a career change to get his head in the right place about? It would be nice to congratulate him on a great career as a player over many years and there's no doubt that experience will bring added value to the dressing room. Well done Jamie & looking forward to your new career in Coaching for many years to come. Completely out of touch with supporters who like myself, gave their hard earned money in the hope of a marquee signing who might actually contribute to Reds.He certainly brought no 'added value' on the pitch which is where his experience was supposed to benefit us. you have hit the nail right on the head .I really don't care which clubs he has played for it's what he has done for the reds and that's not a lot |
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Post by joecocker61 on Feb 6, 2024 8:49:48 GMT
We gave 20 k to improve the sguad . we have lost goose and jerome from last years squad and they have not been replaced.we are a division higher,20k richer and yet the squad is not as strong as last season. No wonder that the fans would like answers.
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Post by 4evereds on Feb 6, 2024 9:16:41 GMT
Think Darlington fans have given around 180k on their 2 budget boosters this season and they're right in the mire!
Football is a risky business some signings work out others don't but one thing I know is that we are lucky to have Danny as manager and no-one can get every call right.
Although lower mid table we can give anybody a game in this league, play great football at times and from what I've seen deserve to be a lot higher in the division despite the injuries we've had.
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Post by Ash on Feb 6, 2024 9:24:22 GMT
Yeah i dont think anyone in here would dispute the players career,the fact he has a family or how he might be as a coach, thats missing the point.
Lots of people have families to support, many reds fans who travel up and down the land and contribute to budget boosters, and turn up every week at BP have families to support.
This thread to me is defintely focused on legitimate concerns over the use of this scheme for such a potentially poor investment by the club.
To be clear also, i never would critisise people for making a poor decision which was only proven to be poor in hindsight. I do not class this as one of those as it was very obviously a punt that had a low probablility of being a success and there is no transparency as to whether this was a gamble that used up all of the money or only a fraction of it.
With the consequence that the club either wasted the opportunity given on a massive gamble, the signing didnt actually cost that much but the money was needed for something else to keep the club going (not its intended purpose but im sure would be fine with fans if explained), the signing didnt actually cost that much and there is money now freed up to sign someone else.
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Post by onlyonereds on Feb 6, 2024 9:46:23 GMT
Reading between the lines in the cumbria crack he is only coaching with reds until the end of the season, is that correct?
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Post by winone on Feb 6, 2024 9:58:14 GMT
Yeah i dont think anyone in here would dispute the players career,the fact he has a family or how he might be as a coach, thats missing the point. Lots of people have families to support, many reds fans who travel up and down the land and contribute to budget boosters, and turn up every week at BP have families to support. This thread to me is defintely focused on legitimate concerns over the use of this scheme for such a potentially poor investment by the club. To be clear also, i never would critisise people for making a poor decision which was only proven to be poor in hindsight. I do not class this as one of those as it was very obviously a punt that had a low probablility of being a success and there is no transparency as to whether this was a gamble that used up all of the money or only a fraction of it. With the consequence that the club either wasted the opportunity given on a massive gamble, the signing didnt actually cost that much but the money was needed for something else to keep the club going (not its intended purpose but im sure would be fine with fans if explained), the signing didnt actually cost that much and there is money now freed up to sign someone else. so you are saying that the club used some of the money for the clubs debts |
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Post by Ash on Feb 6, 2024 10:17:30 GMT
Yeah i dont think anyone in here would dispute the players career,the fact he has a family or how he might be as a coach, thats missing the point. Lots of people have families to support, many reds fans who travel up and down the land and contribute to budget boosters, and turn up every week at BP have families to support. This thread to me is defintely focused on legitimate concerns over the use of this scheme for such a potentially poor investment by the club. To be clear also, i never would critisise people for making a poor decision which was only proven to be poor in hindsight. I do not class this as one of those as it was very obviously a punt that had a low probablility of being a success and there is no transparency as to whether this was a gamble that used up all of the money or only a fraction of it. With the consequence that the club either wasted the opportunity given on a massive gamble, the signing didnt actually cost that much but the money was needed for something else to keep the club going (not its intended purpose but im sure would be fine with fans if explained), the signing didnt actually cost that much and there is money now freed up to sign someone else. so you are saying that the club used some of the money for the clubs debts im saying nothing, im in the dark. i was just summarising what might have been the likely scenarios, it could have been none of them. |
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