popside
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Post by popside on Feb 24, 2024 12:11:46 GMT
We were awful under Wilcock. I don't think I enjoyed a single game that season. Grainger's good work just seemed to slowly wear off as the season went on and we got worse and worse.
I will concede however he managed to get players in relatively easy. He'd probably make a decent DoF. I also don't think he was a bad bloke. Seemed committed but the football he served up was horrific. Very similar to how Lancaster played Saturday.
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Post by starboy on Feb 24, 2024 12:43:37 GMT
The crack i got if reds had kept him 4/5 of our best players where going to leave .
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finbaar
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Post by finbaar on Feb 24, 2024 17:25:49 GMT
marine scored in the 8th minute of 5 minutes of added time,i remember it well. Your point being?
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Post by joecocker61 on Feb 24, 2024 18:11:44 GMT
in response to your comment good grief the play off semi final, We were robbed of a play off final place by the ref adding the extra minutes on,not wilcock fault
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finbaar
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Post by finbaar on Feb 24, 2024 18:44:49 GMT
in response to your comment good grief the play off semi final, We were robbed of a play off final place by the ref adding the extra minutes on,not wilcock fault Robbed. In what way? Did you go to that match? Did you go to any match that season? The reality was we were well out played by Marine but took a lucky lead into injury time. They then scored twice to deservedly go through to the playoff final. Which Marine then won. Not Wilcock's fault? In what universe do you live? He (mis)managed and (un)motivated that team. He was a dreadful negative cloud in the second half of that season and I was so happy when he was sacked.
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Post by joecocker61 on Feb 24, 2024 19:37:21 GMT
the fact that 5 mins extra time was added, yet the ref played 8. He robbed us of a final place. If he stuck to 5 mins we would have won even though marine were the better team. I did go to the match and was gutted because we were robbed by the ref of the win.Think i missed 2 games last season.Yes the football got worse as the season went on and i was pleased that we got Danny back.You would think that wilcock had got us relegated, we finished 2nd. He has taken more stick on this forum than managers that have got us relegated.
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finbaar
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Post by finbaar on Feb 24, 2024 20:58:29 GMT
the fact that 5 mins extra time was added, yet the ref played 8. He robbed us of a final place. If he stuck to 5 mins we would have won even though marine were the better team. I did go to the match and was gutted because we were robbed by the ref of the win.Think i missed 2 games last season.Yes the football got worse as the season went on and i was pleased that we got Danny back.You would think that wilcock had got us relegated, we finished 2nd. He has taken more stick on this forum than managers that have got us relegated. So EXPLAIN WHAT 5 MINUTES ADDED TIME MEANS. Go on, let's have a laugh at your expense.
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Post by cumbrianborn on Feb 25, 2024 2:10:24 GMT
'5 minutes of extra time' means that a minimum of 5 minutes has been added to the normal playing time of the second half, at the discretion of the referee, for playing time deemed 'lost ' due to stoppages. It is rare to extend 5 minutes of extra time to 8 minutes. In bygone years, it was generally referred to as 'Fergie Time' Surprising how many goals were scored during this extra extra time.
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finbaar
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Post by finbaar on Feb 25, 2024 10:21:43 GMT
'5 minutes of extra time' means that a minimum of 5 minutes has been added to the normal playing time of the second half, at the discretion of the referee, for playing time deemed 'lost ' due to stoppages. It is rare to extend 5 minutes of extra time to 8 minutes. In bygone years, it was generally referred to as 'Fergie Time' Surprising how many goals were scored during this extra extra time. Indeed. The key phrase is MININUM. And that means the referee can-and in this case did - extend the match beyond the minimum time. All completely within the law of the game. I'm guessing that Wilcock had trainedtheplayersto collapse at 96 minutes. Probably, as that's what happened. He was so wise that he knew - KNEW - that Rylands where going to win so he only played a bunch of kids against Market Drayton. If he DID do that then he was an even worse manager than I thought.
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Post by PR1_Reds on Feb 25, 2024 14:20:40 GMT
Very odd we've some how gotten to a point of revisionism around Willocks disastrous reign with us, he took a team who would have romped to the title if it wasn't for Covid suspending it, and failed to in the league on the final day against a Market Drayton side who had won 2 games all season and conceded 116 goals. His job was to get us promoted and he failed at doing that and by every metric was a complete and utter failure FACT.
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winone
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Post by winone on Feb 25, 2024 14:41:01 GMT
in response to your comment good grief the play off semi final, We were robbed of a play off final place by the ref adding the extra minutes on,not wilcock fault Robbed. In what way? Did you go to that match? Did you go to any match that season? The reality was we were well out played by Marine but took a lucky lead into injury time. They then scored twice to deservedly go through to the playoff final. Which Marine then won. Not Wilcock's fault? In what universe do you live? He (mis)managed and (un)motivated that team. He was a dreadful negative cloud in the second half of that season and I was so happy when he was sacked. well said I am with you all the way
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Post by onestepbeyond on Feb 25, 2024 15:45:18 GMT
Opinions, its great being able to discuss & read our opinions on certain topics. My own for what it is worth is that Matty Clarke has probably left Lancaster after being dropped by Willcock (despite being named their player of the month) because they just dont get on. (I am only assuming this.) I also believe that Mr Willcock despite being able to get numerous players in to patch us up demotivated a squad of players that should of comfortably won the league regardless of the Market Drayton fiasco with negative kick & rush tactics. Like I said just my opinion.
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